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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #90 on: July 24, 2017, 12:50:33 PM »
With a MiniBUSS, DigiBUSS, UberBUSS and BlunderBUSS in the setup, and TWL HAL power cables for the speaker system, I am a very happy guy!  Dave and Pete both did a great job!  :thumb:
Thanks, Rich.  You da' man!


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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #91 on: July 24, 2017, 10:34:03 PM »
  Certainly deserved. Now add some TWL Digital american power cords and be even happier.  A combo made in heaven.


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I heard that.  Thank you.

Pete's cables just rock.  I gave up making power cables, with the exception of somer niche market cables like the MPC/Mini++, because his cables work great in more applications.  Add to that the fact that Pete is one of the finest people I have ever known and we make a GREAT pair to draw to.   :thumb:

Oh wow. So the sound gets better?  :!:  I have to stop myself getting any new upgrades. It seems I've done nothing but tinker with the gear for the better part of 4 years!  Forgot to add that the Digibuss  has one unpolished receptacle into which I plugged the lan extender and some ikea walwarts.

The polished receptacles are smoother sounding. Have to save up for better cords and the cryo'ed outlets next.

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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #92 on: July 24, 2017, 11:16:04 PM »
  Certainly deserved. Now add some TWL Digital american power cords and be even happier.  A combo made in heaven.


charles
I heard that.  Thank you.

Pete's cables just rock.  I gave up making power cables, with the exception of somer niche market cables like the MPC/Mini++, because his cables work great in more applications.  Add to that the fact that Pete is one of the finest people I have ever known and we make a GREAT pair to draw to.   :thumb:

Oh wow. So the sound gets better?  :!:  I have to stop myself getting any new upgrades. It seems I've done nothing but tinker with the gear for the better part of 4 years!  Forgot to add that the Digibuss  has one unpolished receptacle into which I plugged the lan extender and some ikea walwarts.

The polished receptacles are smoother sounding. Have to save up for better cords and the cryo'ed outlets next.
The polished 5362A receptacles are the best inexpensive receptacle that I have heard.   All of my products are cryoed.  Makes an audible improvement.  I have bought just about every receptacles could find and compared them all.  For $35.00 ea, they kill.  Of course the fact that I'm the guy that supplies them must be considered.  BUT!  If I could find a better one, I would use and recommend it.  I learn every day.

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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #93 on: July 25, 2017, 07:45:53 AM »
That Furutech G is sounding better, but violins and female voices are still  a bit edgy. Im patient..won't cut short the break in process. As to a polished P& S, I'm really looking forward to trying that!
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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #94 on: July 25, 2017, 09:49:17 PM »
That Furutech G is sounding better, but violins and female voices are still  a bit edgy. Im patient..won't cut short the break in process. As to a polished P& S, I'm really looking forward to trying that!
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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #95 on: August 04, 2017, 12:06:11 AM »
I'm now breaking in the P and S polished receptacle and wanted to mention that its quite the performer. Sounds detailed and smooth as Paul says.
The Uber itself seems to be breaking in more as Im repeating some songs that appear to have more of a holographic quality which I quite enjoy. Will put some more time on the P and S polished and then move on to Furutech copper. Having quite the fun time  :thumb:
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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #96 on: August 04, 2017, 11:05:09 AM »
I'm now breaking in the P and S polished receptacle and wanted to mention that its quite the performer. Sounds detailed and smooth as Paul says.
The Uber itself seems to be breaking in more as Im repeating some songs that appear to have more of a holographic quality which I quite enjoy. Will put some more time on the P and S polished and then move on to Furutech copper. Having quite the fun time  :thumb:
Nick B
Thanks for keeping us all up to date, Nick.  It is asmazing just how much polishing adds, or more accurately takes away from the presentation.  Polishing the base metal helps to eliminate most of the micro arcing that will occur between connector surfaces.  Having highly polished blades is a very good adjunct to the polished contact fingers in the receptacles, too.  simply polishing the blades on a Wattgate standard connector and ing that with the polished P&S was my first foray into receptacle and plug modification and really opened my eyes (ears?) about surface finish being critical.I was going to polishe the FPX(Cu) too, but that is a pain in the butt to do.  Getting them apart is one thing, but reassembling them is quite another.  I can't swage the retainer ears.  I just haven't made the proper tool for that.  I have to silver solder them back together.  Once doe, that receptacle is very interesting.  I'll send you one you can just swap out with a FinalFilter already installed if you want.  Just let me know.
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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #97 on: August 04, 2017, 12:43:08 PM »
I'm now breaking in the P and S polished receptacle and wanted to mention that its quite the performer. Sounds detailed and smooth as Paul says.
The Uber itself seems to be breaking in more as Im repeating some songs that appear to have more of a holographic quality which I quite enjoy. Will put some more time on the P and S polished and then move on to Furutech copper. Having quite the fun time  :thumb:
Nick B
Thanks for keeping us all up to date, Nick.  It is asmazing just how much polishing adds, or more accurately takes away from the presentation.  Polishing the base metal helps to eliminate most of the micro arcing that will occur between connector surfaces.  Having highly polished blades is a very good adjunct to the polished contact fingers in the receptacles, too.  simply polishing the blades on a Wattgate standard connector and ing that with the polished P&S was my first foray into receptacle and plug modification and really opened my eyes (ears?) about surface finish being critical.I was going to polishe the FPX(Cu) too, but that is a pain in the butt to do.  Getting them apart is one thing, but reassembling them is quite another.  I can't swage the retainer ears.  I just haven't made the proper tool for that.  I have to silver solder them back together.  Once doe, that receptacle is very interesting.  I'll send you one you can just swap out with a FinalFilter already installed if you want.  Just let me know.

Thanks, much, Dave. I'll keep that in mind.
Nick
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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #98 on: August 20, 2017, 10:37:04 PM »
So, what is the latest scoop, Nick?  I'm very curious about your receptacle auditions.

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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #99 on: August 21, 2017, 09:24:07 AM »
So, what is the latest scoop, Nick?  I'm very curious about your receptacle auditions.

Dave,
It's coming along well, but I've added too many variables. Gary has wanted me to add his power cord from Uber to the wall. So I finally did and it sounds good. He'll be at my house this Wednesday, so I'll be leaving it in for now. Break in for all receptacles is done, but I would now like to go back and disconnect my dac and finalize my decision re which is best for the amp. Then I'll repeat the process with the dac. I like the P & S polished, great sound and bang for buck.
Any of these changes result in a different sound. I need to analyze the change and see if it contributes to my goal of tonality and harmonics (this was Charles description in a recent post).
Interesting that bending Gary's cord resulted in a sound change. He uses solid 8 gauge copper. I had read about that phenomenon and it's the first time I've really experienced it due to the increased resolution that I have. 
I'll be getting the Nola's soon, so that'll be another change. But it's all a fun process  :thumb:
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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #100 on: August 21, 2017, 11:00:31 AM »
  The Uber takes 300 to 400 hours IMO to stop changing. Then ?? Bliss baby. Outlets two to three weeks [ 500] hours. Yes Sir bend a cord it has to settle in again.
Just went through another break-in of our new elec. panel and dedicated lines. 21 days to be exact. ENJOY!!!!


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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #101 on: August 21, 2017, 10:42:16 PM »
My father, Bud, my mentor and best friend ever (after I became a father and finally grokked the Old Man) would look at all of this and throw the bullshit flag.  He was an electrician for 50 years and believed in using the best components from a rational POV.

 I learned a lot from my Dad.

 Buy the best tools and save up for them if necessary. 
Tighten it, wait 5 minutes and tighten it again.  He taught me about cold flow.

NEVER do anything stupid with 250..  You "might" get away on 120, but don't press your luck.

With 220-250, put your left hand in your pocket or an insulated glove.  The left arm is right next to the heart's natural pacemaker.

Make sure every connecting surface is as clean as you can get it.  Clean it, wash it, clean it again.

Be particularly careful with DC, especially when a battery is involved.  He almost lost his ring finger when he reached under the dashboard of a '48 Chevy he was rodding.  Shorted at the radio power input.  It was REALLY ugly afterwards for the remainder of his life.

He worked the last 20 years of his profession as the chief electrician and head of maintenance at the reactor at Sandia National Labs.

Even so, I can say that he would not believe that proper cables, greater current capacity, connectors or any of the things we take for granted as true.

I wish I could have showed him  :(. It would have stoked a fire in the Oldster's brain pan.

Miss you, Pop.  We'll talk, later :thumb:

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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2017, 02:44:42 PM »
Well guys, I got my hands on a little plug and play item and after doing just that, Can't imagine how we could have so many pages of write up on it. How many ways can you say something is effing awesome. Sources to DIGI to Majic to wall, oh my.
Can't say everything gained is from DIGI cause opened a space on the Majic for amp. Absolutely got improvement in the system.

Thanks Dave
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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2017, 07:22:35 PM »
That PI Audio guy sure knows his stuff 😀👍
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Re: PIAUDIO DIGIBUSS
« Reply #104 on: November 08, 2017, 09:07:13 AM »
Well guys, I got my hands on a little plug and play item and after doing just that, Can't imagine how we could have so many pages of write up on it. How many ways can you say something is effing awesome. Sources to DIGI to Majic to wall, oh my.
Can't say everything gained is from DIGI cause opened a space on the Majic for amp. Absolutely got improvement in the system.

Thanks Dave
Don
Thanks, Don.  I try  8)