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Systemic Development => Speakers => Topic started by: richidoo on October 24, 2010, 07:25:06 AM

Title: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on October 24, 2010, 07:25:06 AM
Watch for prices of exotic loudspeaker drivers to rise significantly due to Chinese quotas on rare earth minerals. Neodymium in particular will be affected which is used to make the most powerful permanent magnets, used in high tech motors like hard drives and loudspeakers.

Other industries will be affected too, like phosphors for panel TVs.

It started as China grew impatient with Japan over long standing territorial dispute. Then they remembered they hate the west also and decided to lump us in there. Like most Chinese chest thumping I predict they will make drama then like other nations who get what they want by stirring trouble, will back down in exchange for a chit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/business/global/25rare.html?src=busln
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/20/chinas-rare-earth-monopoly/
http://sfgate.ldc.bloomberg.wallst.com/SFChronicle/Story?docId=1376-LAKN1Y1A74E901-5QO69NGDTESI71F67EJROEO94B
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: rollo on October 24, 2010, 08:24:12 AM
  Bully tactics by the bully. Gee just makes one wonder how China would treat us in a crunch. They own 25% of us as we speak. Interesting articles rich.


charles
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on February 08, 2011, 11:45:35 AM
Last month China nationalized their rare earth mining industry, and are building facilities to stockpile the materials. This while they limit exports despite increasing demand suggests they are gearing up to take advantage of their monopoly.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.a1f3243ab58c6b6ab6455cbca4443759.a91
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: BobM on February 08, 2011, 01:31:54 PM
Just what we need, another reason to make things more expensive. And don't forget that every $1 increase in parts cost translates to about a $15-20 increase in the retail price. So a $100 parts cost rise means about $2000 more to us.
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: allenzachary on February 08, 2011, 03:45:51 PM
Not to worry.  We have more Rare Earth than China has.  Especially on vinyl.

(http://i.imagehost.org/0790/Front_7.jpg)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: bpape on February 08, 2011, 03:46:57 PM
 :thumb:
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: allenzachary on February 08, 2011, 04:13:39 PM
She looks a little like my avatar, ya think?
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on April 06, 2011, 02:02:42 PM
U.S. has its own rare earth minerals:

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/04/06/mojave-desert-lifeblood-americas-technical-security/
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on October 21, 2011, 12:25:26 PM
http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20111020/ap_on_hi_te/as_china_rare_earths

China has nationalized their rare earths industry, restricting mining and sales. They are suspending sales altogether for one month to further jack up prices which have been slumping since their greed play began.

Example, Accuton is redesigning their drivers to use less neo, but this is at the expense of driver sensitivity. http://www.accuton.de/company/index.php?&m1=5&m2=15#news_18
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on May 07, 2012, 02:02:45 PM
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51301 (http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51301)

US mining companies trying to take up the slack from China's rare earth quotas are finding Fed permitting a big hurdle. There is a bill in Congress that would speed up mining permits.
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on November 17, 2012, 05:08:36 PM
India to the rescue, selling ore to Toyota.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-16/japan-signs-deal-with-india-on-rare-earth-production-supply.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-16/japan-signs-deal-with-india-on-rare-earth-production-supply.html)
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on February 22, 2014, 01:11:21 PM
What goes around, comes around....

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-21/china-faces-vicious-circle-commodity-collateral-collapses (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-21/china-faces-vicious-circle-commodity-collateral-collapses)

Metals, metals everywhere, and not a coin to spend.
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on March 27, 2014, 07:14:29 AM
http://www.dailytech.com/World+Trade+Org+to+China+on+Rare+Earth+Metals+Stop+Breaking+the+Law/article34597.htm (http://www.dailytech.com/World+Trade+Org+to+China+on+Rare+Earth+Metals+Stop+Breaking+the+Law/article34597.htm)

World Trade Organization says "stop manipulating neodymium prices."

China says "we are reducing mining to protect our environment, just as you asked us to do."
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: rollo on March 27, 2014, 08:17:45 AM
  Good one Richidoo. Very slick these Chinese.

charles
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on April 17, 2018, 09:55:57 AM
Japan has discovered massive REY (Rare Earth minerals and Yttrium) deposits in its ocean floor mud. The estimated 16 million tons (after refinement) is enough to supply the needs of the entire world for centuries.

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/04/20180411-rey.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-23948-5.pdf

One of China's biggest economic weapons is defused.
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: S Clark on April 17, 2018, 06:54:38 PM
I also read that today.  Having a second source for the world add a lot of stability to the market. 
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: dBe on April 17, 2018, 08:58:02 PM
I just want to see a major increase in cobalt so there will be more AlNiCo magnets for speakers.  Nothing sounds as natural in the mids as AlNiCo.

That is why I'm looking for old vifa M13MI-08-08 alnico mids that were a buyout from Alon before they became Nola.  I just need a pair.  Help me, please... Help me.
Title: Re: Rare Earth Minerals "Quotas"
Post by: richidoo on April 18, 2018, 10:55:49 AM
I have a samarium cobalt magnet stuck to my refrigerator that I got from The Foxboro Company when I was coop student there in 1994. It was part of a differential pressure sensor they made that Dutch Oil and others used to measure flow of oil and gas across their empire. A thin wire vibrating in a magnetic field varied frequency as the tension between the sensor diaphragms varied with differential pressure. The frequency was converted to 4-20mA signal for process control. All analog, very precise. This is how we got to the moon girls and boys!  The magnets weren't cheap. My magnet has a tiny chip in one edge, so it was rejected and given to me by the engineer that invented and patented the vibrating wire sensor technology. My favorite job evah! and a treasured possession. It's not really suited for refrigerator duty, it sticks too hard.  :D
It was made with California Cobalt, not chinese. But China did the same to our rare earth mines as they did to our steel.