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Systemic Development => Amplification and Preamplification => Topic started by: shadowlight on February 02, 2018, 11:25:50 AM

Title: BAT Equipment
Post by: shadowlight on February 02, 2018, 11:25:50 AM
Thinking about getting an integrated which is hybrid (solid state amp and tube based preamp section) and one that I am thinking about is BAT VK-300xSE.

Anyone have insight on how the sound is?  The only time that I heard BAT equipment was at Levi's home right around the time I started attending NY RAVE events back in 06/07 time frame.


http://tmraudio.com/components/integrated-amplifiers/bat-vk-300x-se-stereo-integrated-tube-amplifier-factory-re-certified-warranty/
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: Nick B on February 02, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
Have heard BAT a few times some years back, but I’m really no help there. I am curious, though, as to what type “sound” you like.
Nick
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: shadowlight on February 03, 2018, 06:34:12 PM
Nick,
My preference is warmer sounds with mids that are clear.
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: Emil on February 04, 2018, 05:23:28 AM
Nick,
My preference is warmer sounds with mids that are clear.

If you do a bit of googling, you'll find owners and reviewers describing the BAT as neutral and not warm even though tubes are in the chain.

Why the need for so much power? Did you change speakers?
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: shadowlight on February 05, 2018, 12:13:42 PM
Emil,

I repalced the Zu Druid's with Spatial M3 Turbo's, which do require bit more power  :duh
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: rollo on February 06, 2018, 07:56:11 AM
   If you desire a SS output look at Vincent from Germany. If you can be persuaded back to tubed output the Qualiton A20i or A50i is a perfect match for Spatial. They showed together and the reviews were very good.
   If you consider SS only  Parasound would be my choice. If you consider hybrid class "D" Arion HS 500 with Duelund hybrid output caps. Have fun.


charles
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: jimbones on February 06, 2018, 09:39:01 AM
Emil,

I repalced the Zu Druid's with Spatial M3 Turbo's, which do require bit more power  :duh

Shadow,

OT but how do you like your Spatials M3's

Jim
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: Nick B on February 06, 2018, 11:43:49 AM
Emil,

I repalced the Zu Druid's with Spatial M3 Turbo's, which do require bit more power  :duh

Shadow,

OT but how do you like your Spatials M3's

Jim

I’d be curious as well. Just had those recommended to me a few days ago.
Nick
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: shadowlight on February 06, 2018, 02:03:43 PM
Yep, I like the Spatial's but still miss my Zu Druid's.  My problem is the space on the side and height.  One of this day's I will move the Spatial's in the family room which has sloping ceiling with width being around 20+ ft and depth around 18+ ft.

The Spatial M4 that we had during the Lampizator GTG sounded pretty open.
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: mfsoa on February 07, 2018, 05:24:20 AM
Hi Deepak,

On AC, Wind Chaser is loving his Maraschinos on his Spatials.

I'd be happy to bring mine over if you wanted to listen before you commit. Best with a balanced source.


-Mike
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: shadowlight on February 07, 2018, 12:20:55 PM
Mike,

I might take you up on it.  Maybe setup something during early March time frame.
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: tmazz on February 07, 2018, 04:12:21 PM
   If you desire a SS output look at Vincent from Germany. If you can be persuaded back to tubed output the Qualiton A20i or A50i is a perfect match for Spatial. They showed together and the reviews were very good.
   If you consider SS only  Parasound would be my choice. If you consider hybrid class "D" Arion HS 500 with Duelund hybrid output caps. Have fun.


charles

Just be careful with the Vincent amps. Some (not all) of their products use this off the beaten path Chinese tube that is not socketed, it id directly soldered into the board. The company claims that it has a usable life such that it will never need to be changed, but tubes are tubes and you never know when one will fail. I personally would not be comfortable owning an amp that needed to go to the shop to have a tube changes. YMMV.

I would just check the model that you are interested in and make sure that all of the tubes are available and user replaceable. Other than that I have heard good things about the way they sound.
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: rollo on February 08, 2018, 10:41:21 AM
  You also may consider Pass F7. I'm looking into those myself for the Rethm Saahanas. Read the reviews.


charles
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: shadowlight on February 08, 2018, 11:26:25 AM
  You also may consider Pass F7. I'm looking into those myself for the Rethm Saahanas. Read the reviews.


charles

Charles,
The goals is to reduce cables (interconnect, power cord) so looking at good solid state integrated.
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: TomS on February 08, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
Vinnie Rossi LIO would be my choice
Title: Re: BAT Equipment
Post by: shadowlight on February 09, 2018, 05:24:25 PM
Vinnie Rossi LIO would be my choice

I would like too, but the budget does not allow that.  Anything I end up with will be used and even used LIO is in 4k+ range.