Author Topic: Audiophile Argument Map  (Read 3936 times)

Offline BobM

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Audiophile Argument Map
« on: April 01, 2010, 07:49:03 AM »
Kudos to Sean Adams, founder of SlimDevices, for cooking up this funny and bang-on little audiophile argument map (pulled from a post at AA):


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You claim that an

( ) audible
( ) measurable
( ) hypothetical

improvement in sound quality can be attained by:

( ) upsampling
( ) increasing word size
( ) vibration dampening
( ) bi-wiring
( ) replacing the external power supply
( ) using a different lossless format
( ) decompressing on the server
( ) removing bits of metal from skull
( ) using ethernet instead of wireless
( ) inverting phase
( ) installing bigger connectors
( ) installing Black Gate caps
( ) installing ByBee filters
( ) installing hospital-grade AC jacks
( ) defragmenting the hard disk
( ) running older firmware

Your idea will not work. Specifically, it fails to account for:

( ) the placebo effect
( ) your ears honestly aren't that good
( ) your idea has already been thoroughly disproved
( ) modern DACs upsample anyway
( ) those products are pure snake oil
( ) lossless formats, by definition, are lossless
( ) those measurements are bogus
( ) sound travels much slower than you think
( ) electric signals travel much faster than you think
( ) that's not how binary arithmetic works
( ) that's not how TCP/IP works
( ) the Nyquist theorem
( ) the can't polish a turd theorem
( ) bits are bits

Your subsequent arguments will probably appeal in desperation to such esoterica as:

( ) jitter
( ) EMI
( ) thermal noise
( ) existentialism
( ) cosmic rays

And you will then change the subject to:

( ) theories are not the same as facts
( ) measurements don't tell everything
( ) not everyone is subject to the placebo effect
( ) blind testing is dumb
( ) you can't prove what I can't hear
( ) science isn't everything

Rather than engage in this tired discussion, I suggest exploring the following factors which are more likely to improve sound quality in your situation:

( ) room acoustics
( ) source material
( ) type of speakers
( ) speaker placement
( ) crossover points
( ) equalization
( ) Q-tips
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Re: Audiophile Argument Map
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2010, 09:57:21 AM »
Bob,

If Sean is still advocating the use of Q-Tips you should point him back to the legendary ear wax thread.  #-o

http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=1932.0
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Offline BobM

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Re: Audiophile Argument Map
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2010, 10:44:45 AM »
Don't go there Tom or I will have to post another waxy picture  [-( :nono:
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Re: Audiophile Argument Map
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2010, 10:47:22 AM »
I have some new info on that front, should I unlock it?  ;)  :duh 


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Re: Audiophile Argument Map
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2010, 11:08:23 AM »
Don't go there Tom or I will have to post another waxy picture  [-( :nono:

 :rofl: :shock: :rofl:

I have some new info on that front, should I unlock it?  ;)  :duh 

As much fun as we has laughing at that thread I thought it also contained some very valuable information. If you have some new info, by all means bring it on.  =P~
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Offline Bob in St. Louis

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Re: Audiophile Argument Map
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2010, 06:32:16 PM »
Interesting map. Thank you for that Bob.  :thumb:

But,
Alcohol doesn't enter the equation. Most interesting.
That can mak teh msot diferenses sumtimez. And besides, I'm not as drunc as u cant pruuv. But wat...i need to defrag mi hardthing. Then ill bild sum base traps. itl be beter.

fhanks.
boob

hou cum spelceker has somane red lins????????

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Re: Audiophile Argument Map
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2010, 06:43:52 PM »
I have some new info on that front, should I unlock it?  ;)  :duh 



I am begging you ----- please don't bring that thread back. :duh

Ken

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Re: Audiophile Argument Map
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2010, 09:31:34 PM »
Don't worry... [-(