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Systemic Development => Analog Devices => Topic started by: rollo on April 24, 2018, 08:02:36 AM

Title: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on April 24, 2018, 08:02:36 AM
  The reviews are in and it appears this baby is as good as or better than the 4K one. List is $795. Getting demo in this week. Rollo Audio will offer a 20% discount to ALL Audionervosa members.
www.KirmussAudio.com Check it out. Fremer loved it.


charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: Nick B on April 24, 2018, 08:28:00 AM
  The reviews are in and it appears this baby is as good as or better than the 4K one. List is $795. Getting demo in this week. Rollo Audio will offer a 20% discount to ALL Audionervosa members.
www.KirmussAudio.com Check it out. Fremer loved it.

charles

You must be psychic, Charles. I was again looking at Michael Fremer’s Axpona videos last night about
this unit. Seems like a great product for a great price. The owner of the company said he underwrites some of the cost as he owns another company and feels everyone should have access to a reasonably priced ultrasonic cleaner. His cleaner also can’t clean more than two LPs at a time as he believes having records close together decreases the efficiency of the ultrasonic fluid.
He’s been an audiophile since age 9.
The company also makes cables.
Nick
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on April 25, 2018, 08:07:39 AM
   I believe that any serious vinyl person should now own one. The ones at 3K to 4K and more are just luxury items that do the same thing. seems like a no-brainer to me.


charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: spinblackcircle on April 26, 2018, 09:11:19 AM
This could really upset the US cleaning industry.  The better DIY setups cost almost as much so why bother with them.  I'm not a fan of his drying method as show in the Fremer video but pickup a vacuum RCM and your all set.  Please post your opinion once you get your demo as my credit card is ready especially with your AN discount.  :drool:
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on April 26, 2018, 12:47:55 PM
  Should be in tomorrow [ Friday ] hoping it is what the say.


charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: S Clark on April 26, 2018, 09:37:46 PM
U.S. cleaners are a big step up from the standard vacuum cleaners.  I've been using a DIY one for a couple of years now, and they are just stunningly good.  With Charles' discount, this is the first commercial cleaner that comes close to DIY value (although they can still be built for ~$200).  3 minutes in the tub followed by a quick vacuum and you've got vinyl as clean as you're going to get it. 
BUT BE WARNED!!  These are dangerously loud even if it's way above the human range.  Wear protection when using. 
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on April 27, 2018, 06:56:39 AM
  Well hopefully the Kirmuss will be quiet. We will find out. My first experiment is to clean two indentical LPs. One with VPI machine other with Kirmuss. Then listen. Then re-clean the VPI cleaned LP with Kirmuss and listen for any improvement.
As of now that Fedex truck is out there somewhere.

charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on April 27, 2018, 08:26:20 AM
  Just arrived. Heavy box. Packed like pro. Where is my bottle of distilled water ?? I expect my Lps to be cleaner than clean, better than better and new and improved as well. We shall see  :roll: :rofl: or hear.


charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: Bill O'Connell on April 27, 2018, 10:00:07 AM
Let us know Charles, at this price might be the alternative to DIY.
  Look for to your thoughts.
 Bill
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: S Clark on April 27, 2018, 08:27:12 PM

Charles, they are dangerous like X-rays or UV that you can't see.  The dB levels of most US cleaners are well over 100, but you can't hear it. But just because you don't know it's there doesn't mean it's not doing damage.   I happened to try out some hearing aids with frequency extenders... reaches out to high frequencies and reproduces them octaves lower so those with high frequency loss can at least know there's something there.  My cleaner that I had never thought loud, ran me out of the room. It was like running a chain saw inside a walk in closet. 
When I did a bit of research, I found that the dB levels are not even close to safe.   
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: Nick B on April 27, 2018, 09:12:27 PM

Charles, they are dangerous like X-rays or UV that you can't see.  The dB levels of most US cleaners are well over 100, but you can't hear it. But just because you don't know it's there doesn't mean it's not doing damage.   I happened to try out some hearing aids with frequency extenders... reaches out to high frequencies and reproduces them octaves lower so those with high frequency loss can at least know there's something there.  My cleaner that I had never thought loud, ran me out of the room. It was like running a chain saw inside a walk in closet. 
When I did a bit of research, I found that the dB levels are not even close to safe.

We have a cat. Any idea if this could be irritating to the cat (or dog) or could potentially damage the animal’s hearing?
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: S Clark on April 28, 2018, 06:06:10 AM
It's hard to say with pets.  I know my dog didn't like it back when he could hear.  He'd hear it from two rooms away and come running to bark at it.  I would have to shut a door to keep him happy.
Info on Google is mixed.  Some audiologist don't think it has negative effects, but some manufacturers of industrial cleaners say to use protection. 
I simply put on a pair of muffs, since I've experienced how loud it actually is.  What hearing I have, I want to keep. 

Regardless, it's a great tool, and one that everyone serious about vinyl should get.  But like most powerful tools, use with care. 
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: S Clark on April 28, 2018, 07:20:03 AM
I just realized this thread is under "Dealer Ads".
So let me summarize: 
US cleaners are a big step up in pristine vinyl.
Buy Charles' record cleaner.
Spend an extra $10 for a pair of ear muffs.  
:thumb:
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on April 28, 2018, 08:49:40 AM
It is OK S. Clark. But give it a chance did not even turn it on yet. Let ya know by Monday.

charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: S Clark on May 01, 2018, 05:06:21 PM
It is OK S. Clark. But give it a chance did not even turn it on yet. Let ya know by Monday.

charles
Alrighty Charles, it's Tuesday already!!!!!  I'll bet ya a whole sawbuck that it's the cleanest and quietest your vinyl has ever sounded (at least that's my experience).
You really ought to sell a bunch of these.   :thumb: 
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on May 08, 2018, 08:39:46 AM
OK verdict in. Noise is not louder than VPI vacum. Clean ? My LPs never sounded as good. In direct comparison to VPI cleaned and Kirmuss cleaned less noise with Kirmuss. Eliminated some pops and clicks but not pop from scratches.
The old records in mint condition benefited the most. A six step process for old records. A two step process for new LPs. Grab a beer and super clean those LPs. Two at once oh my !!
List price $795, AN price less 20% plus shipping.
If you cherish your LP collection or just want ultra clean LPs look no further. Very well done .


charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: spinblackcircle on May 08, 2018, 09:13:18 AM
Charles, did you just use distilled water or did you add the isopropyl alcohol and or the "Anti Fungal" surfactant?

Thx!
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: richidoo on May 08, 2018, 12:05:55 PM
Thanks for the discount Charles!!
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: S Clark on May 08, 2018, 05:55:57 PM
OK verdict in. Noise is not louder than VPI vacum.
I'm not sure you are catching my point. Of course the audible noise is not excessive, but the ultra sonic cleaners are putting out high volumes of noise that you can't hear.  More importantly, it's in excess of 100 db's in the near vicinity of the cleaner.  Just because you can't see U.V or Xray frequencies doesn't mean it can't damage you.  Please advise your customers to use hearing protection when using any ultra sonic cleaners. 

And a 20% discount, made a good deal into a great one....  :thumb:
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on May 10, 2018, 11:27:36 AM
OK verdict in. Noise is not louder than VPI vacum.
I'm not sure you are catching my point. Of course the audible noise is not excessive, but the ultra sonic cleaners are putting out high volumes of noise that you can't hear.  More importantly, it's in excess of 100 db's in the near vicinity of the cleaner.  Just because you can't see U.V or Xray frequencies doesn't mean it can't damage you.  Please advise your customers to use hearing protection when using any ultra sonic cleaners. 

And a 20% discount, made a good deal into a great one....  :thumb:

   Thanks for heads up. I will consult Kirmuss for a definitive answer. I tell what though, my LPs never sounded better.


charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on July 10, 2018, 08:45:42 AM
Much to do about nothing actually. For the limited time used no worry. Cleaner than clean is the end result. If one is concerned wear ear plugs when cleaning but really not required.
10 sold to date what ya waiting for ?

charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on July 22, 2018, 02:49:33 PM
   Your LPs are dirty nah nah nah nah nah.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: Jack in Wilmington on September 11, 2018, 11:29:19 AM
The Cable Co. has them in stock. Call and ask for Jason.
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: Folsom on September 14, 2018, 02:44:20 PM
The frequencies couple to everything around them, which brings them into the audible range. I think they are loud as hell, the ones I have heard.
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on September 16, 2018, 03:08:41 PM
The Cable Co. has them in stock. Call and ask for Jason.


 No need. I sell them. Discount them as well. BTW thanks Folsom.


charles
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: Jack in Wilmington on September 16, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
Sorry Charles, I missed that completely.
Title: Re: KirmussAudio Ultrasonic Record Cleaner
Post by: rollo on September 17, 2018, 10:30:04 AM
Sorry Charles, I missed that completely.

 No big deal, so how many you need  :rofl: :rofl:


charles