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Offline Nick B

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single full range drivers
« on: November 01, 2017, 09:12:53 PM »
Having heard the Tang Band W8-1808s at my buddy Gary’s house, I ordered a pair and will get them this Friday. Parts Express has a 45 day return policy. As I have no experience with full range drivers,
I wondered what other drivers might be recommended including those that have mods done to them.
I saw a slow motion video on YouTube showing the motion of a full range driver and I’m amazed the sound is as good as it is....
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
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Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 02:43:16 PM »
Bump .... (my first order with Parts Express and the packaging was poor)
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Supratek Chardonnay preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
Hapa Aero digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 10:35:19 AM »
nick, just a "fyi" - the pure audio project speakers i heard at the caf, which i thought were fantastic at any price, used the tb w8-1808 drivers:

http://www.pureaudioproject.com/trio15tb-open-baffle-speakers/

doug s.

Hey Doug,
Thanks for the info. It appears we don’t have many single driver afficicanados here, so I’ll experiment on my own. After a few woodworking glitches...don’t try and cut plywood free hand with a Rotozip....it appears I’ll have my Tang Bands running today or tomorrow. I expect they’ll perform very nicely, but I will contacting this site to explore other options as well.
http://www.commonsenseaudio.com/nirvana.html
Nick
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Supratek Chardonnay preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
Hapa Aero digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 02:41:19 PM »
  WHAT ???? I love my single driver widebanders. Gimme 2W amp and 100db efficient speakers any day of the week.


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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 07:29:59 PM »
  WHAT ???? I love my single driver widebanders. Gimme 2W amp and 100db efficient speakers any day of the week.


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Who knew ??? 😉
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Supratek Chardonnay preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
Hapa Aero digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2017, 10:35:13 AM »
High sensitivity is where it's at for me, too.   :thumb:
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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2017, 03:13:59 PM »
After a number of woodworking fiascos, the Tang Bands are mounted ..... in ugly enclosures. The quality of work is not good. Anyway, I haven’t played music in days so the McCormack amp, dac, Auralic Mini streamer and Uber were stone cold. Of course, the Tang Bands had zero hours on them. After plugging everything into the Uber, I started to listen and it wasn’t pretty. After an hour, things smoothed and the sound was much better. Right now, it sounds a bit etched and thin in the midrange. I’ll play the McCormack a bit more and then switch to the Temple Audio Bantam amp. The Bantam is a class T I believe and the combo rocked at Gary’s house a few weeks ago. He put 200 hours on his TBs It’s so nice to pick up the new speakers and not strain my back. My wife loves the look of an open baffle.
Will report as things develop.
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Supratek Chardonnay preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
Hapa Aero digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2017, 10:29:53 AM »
I’ve decided to go a different direction and returned the Tang Bands to Parts Express. I’m ordering the Mark Audio A10P drivers and they’ll be modded by Dave Dlugos. These are the same modded speakers that Gary...aka gander...now uses. Gary pretty much has a “golden ear” and I really trust his judgment. The cost including mods is $370. The bass response is improved over the Tang Bands.

I’m still deciding on a cabinet and it’ll either be a flatpack or a finished product. The cabinet will be a standmount which my wife and I both prefer. It won’t be open baffle. I prefer a cabinet not to exceed 35 lbs.  My hunch is that this will work beautifully. 

Once the speaker project is done, I’ll go on to the amp and finally the dac.
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Supratek Chardonnay preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
Hapa Aero digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2017, 12:36:20 PM »
I did the same thing with my Tang Bands. Hooray for PE 45 day return policy!

Audio hope is dope, and reality often doesn't match our expectations.

I'm in the same boat at the moment, I just bought some speakers that I've wanted for years, but they're not what I expected. It's disappointing, but that's the nature of this game. Everyone is different and what works for some doesn't work for all.

Years ago I built 3 planet10 speakers for Feastrex full range drivers, and they sounded excellent! Really good solid musical bass for such a tiny speaker. I can heartily recommend the reflex-horn type speakers designed by him and scottmoose.

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2017, 01:42:35 PM »
I did the same thing with my Tang Bands. Hooray for PE 45 day return policy!

Audio hope is dope, and reality often doesn't match our expectations.

I'm in the same boat at the moment, I just bought some speakers that I've wanted for years, but they're not what I expected. It's disappointing, but that's the nature of this game. Everyone is different and what works for some doesn't work for all.

Years ago I built 3 planet10 speakers for Feastrex full range drivers, and they sounded excellent! Really good solid musical bass for such a tiny speaker. I can heartily recommend the reflex-horn type speakers designed by him and scottmoose.

Good to hear your results with the planet 10 speakers. Gary really likes the bass on these little speakers. I think it’ll be very good, but ya never know. At least it’s not much of a risk financially. I’d like to get it all resolved so I get can to my ultrasonic record cleaning project and finally set up my analog again. Then I’ll get to fixing all the corrupted tags on the CDs.

That’s the current plan, but heck, that’s also been the plan for the last ten years  :duh
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Supratek Chardonnay preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
Hapa Aero digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2017, 04:12:23 PM »
It would take me 10 years just to do all that.  :-({|=

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2017, 09:54:11 AM »
  So is it soup yet ??


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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2017, 04:43:34 PM »
  So is it soup yet ??


charles


It’s warming up.... Called Parts Express today and they already gave me a refund. So I’m gonna place the order for the Mark Audio drivers. I’m just about there picking a cabinet. Too bad I can’t get it by Christmas 🎅🏽
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Supratek Chardonnay preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
Hapa Aero digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS

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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2017, 09:40:34 AM »
  Now you will need subs. GR Research OB baby. If lazy SVS or Rythmic. I need spellcheck.


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Re: single full range drivers
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2017, 12:16:18 PM »
  Now you will need subs. GR Research OB baby. If lazy SVS or Rythmic. I need spellcheck.


charles

No subs, Charles. I really want to keep things simple and adding more cabling and having a sub..or two..would take up more space. Gary tells me his Mark Audio drivers produce enough bass, so that should be quite sufficient for me.
Nick
Orchard Starkrimson Ultra amp
Supratek Chardonnay preamp
JMR Voce Grande speakers
Border Patrol SEi dac
Holo Red streamer
Hapa Aero digital coax
WyWires Silver cables
TWL Digital American II p cord
Audio Envy p cords
Roon, Tidal, Qobuz
PI Audio UberBUSS